Drive-in services get OK from Beshear, if guidelines are followed

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (KT) -- Churches across Kentucky have been forced to think outside the box during these days of social distancing.

One of the ways some churches have been meeting together is through drive-in services using sound systems or radio transmitters while members stay in their cars on the parking lots. Gov. Andy Beshear weighed in on the drive-in services during Tuesday’s press conference.


With Easter Sunday a little more than a week away, Beshear offered the following guidelines for churches to meet through drive-in services:

  1. No more than a single family that lives together in a car.

  2. Cars must be parked more than six feet apart.

  3. No one can get out of their car.

  4. Nothing can be passed between the cars.


“If all of those can be followed, I think this type of service can be something people can feel together on,” Beshear said. He thanked churches for thinking of ways to help people abide by the Center for Disease Control guidelines.


“The last thing we want is for an Easter worship service, which is about rebirth, to ultimately spread the virus and actually harm people,” he said.


Beshear urged congregations to continue to avoid meeting together in person for the health and protection of the members.

Click here for Gov. Beshear's full answer

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SteveG

While I appreciate Gov. Beshear looking for ways to facilitate church services, I doubt he or his medical people have focused on:

+ In-car transmission rates for a virus has been shown to be very high, about 60 - 99%, in a car for 60-90 minutes (see 2012 Queensland Univ study on flu) (and of course, putting people in a mostly enclosed space for a prolonged period, immobile (can't run from a cough or sneeze), way closer than the CDC calls for and w/ mouths/noses at similar heights does this!) (See also NY Times "("risk goes up with sustained contact — ... by sharing the same air space for a prolonged time.")

+ In-home transmission rates for COVID-19 have proven to be low, 3-10.5% for symptomatic, per CDC and WHO, even before hygiene practices were well-publicized and followed (household transmission rates) (and we know from experience w/ other viruses that just b/c one family member gets it, doesn't mean all will, and we also know to be more careful now w/ wiping etc.)

+ People have the virus and do not know it, either not yet showing symptoms, too mild to notice yet, or won't show symptoms, so they get in the car, too, a foot or two away, often, from others

+ So putting entire families in a car for a drive-in service puts the whole family at great risk for infection if just one member of the family is unawarely infected, whereas if they stayed home, they could have avoided infection and probably would not have gotten infected, based on history

+ The Governor's guidelines help avoid transmission between families, but encouraging families to get in the car together for 60-90 minutes puts the whole family at greater risk for infection & resulting health and life threats.

I hope he adjusts what he said b/c I think it puts Kentuckians and others at significant risk with his announcement. I know it will be tough for him to do so, but the in-car, small-space time for families for 60-90 minutes is dangerous to them in this environment.

Prayers for everybody.

Wednesday, April 1
SteveG

While I appreciate Gov. Beshear looking for ways to facilitate church services, I doubt he or his medical people have focused on:

+ In-car transmission rates for a virus has been shown to be very high, e.g., ~ 60 - 99%, in a car for 60-90 minutes in 2012 Queensland Univ study on flu, (and of course, putting people in a mostly enclosed space for a prolonged period, immobile (can't run from a cough or sneeze or singing out the droplets), way closer than the CDC calls for and w/ mouths/noses at similar heights does this!) (See also NY Times "("risk goes up with sustained contact — ... by sharing the same air space for a prolonged time.")

+ In-home transmission rates for COVID-19 have proven to be relatively low, 3-10.5% for symptomatic, per CDC and WHO, even before hygiene practices were well-publicized and followed (household transmission rates) (and we know from experience w/ other viruses that just b/c one family member gets it, doesn't mean all will, and we also know to be more careful now w/ wiping etc.)

+ People have the virus and do not know it, so they get in the car, too, a foot or two away, often, from others

+ So putting entire families in a car for a drive-in service puts the whole family at great risk for infection if just one member of the family is unawarely infected, whereas if they stayed home, they could have avoided infection and probably would not have gotten infected, based on history

+ Claiming that it is fine to put families in position that they will be infected if one member is infected b/c the family is going to get it anyway is incorrect, defeatist, and inconsistent with #FlattenTheCurve

+ The Governor's guidelines help avoid transmission b/t families, but encouraging families to get in the car together for an extended time puts the whole family at greater risk for infection & resulting health and life threats.

I hope he adjusts what he said b/c I think it puts Kentuckians and others at significant risk w/ his announcement. I know it will be tough for him to do so, but the in-car, small-space time for families for a prolonged time is dangerous to them in this environment.

Prayers for everybody

Wednesday, April 1

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